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pickman
29th October 2008, 14:37
Time for the third test, this time from Dehli.

Can the Aussies rebound from their ordinary dispaly in Mohali or will they catch a case of Dehli belly and give us the shits?

thegrach
29th October 2008, 14:40
Unfortunately I am leaning towards the second option. What do you think Syd?

SonOfReep
29th October 2008, 14:44
Who's pitching?

Whacker
29th October 2008, 14:47
Chief and you're catching

Syd4Cricket
29th October 2008, 14:48
Unfortunately I am leaning towards the second option. What do you think Syd?

I reckon we will lose badly

GOD I FUCKING LOVE CRICKET

Kingy
29th October 2008, 14:50
Look, Syd has managed to defeat his homosexual tendencies, and is now on board with cricket.

We will win; the loss will catlyse us to stop playing like a bunch of timid poofters.

BuzzKillington
29th October 2008, 14:50
You dont think Clark's inclusion will help us, S4C?

Syd
29th October 2008, 15:02
Who's pitching?

We all know you're catching. :cool:

Syd
29th October 2008, 15:03
Unfortunately I am leaning towards the second option. What do you think Syd?


I think I'd like to not have -214842234 rep points again TYVM.


Look, Syd has managed to defeat his homosexual tendencies, and is now on board with cricket.

We will win; the loss will catlyse us to stop playing like a bunch of timid poofters.

Cricket? Isn't that a fags game??






Oh crap!!!!! :(

pickman
29th October 2008, 15:04
India have won the toss and will bat first - advantage India then :(

Good news though is the monkey man is out

Syd
29th October 2008, 15:04
I reckon we will lose badly

GOD I FUCKING LOVE CRICKET

LOLZA!!!! :p

Roddy Woomble
29th October 2008, 15:11
Mr and Mrs Shewog, you can go to bed now because your son is OUT! :thumbsu:

Syd
29th October 2008, 15:39
Let this be a lesson to all you who dare impugn my name in such a manner!!!

Syd4Cricket
Enjoy your ban.



Kudos to the mods for finally getting one right.

bigburger
29th October 2008, 16:19
Interesting start. Who won the last spot White or Krecja?

SonOfReep
29th October 2008, 16:19
White. You need a spinner who really turns it on a pitch like Delhi ;D

bigburger
29th October 2008, 16:21
India have won their last 7 matches on this pitch. We are gonna find it tough me thinkies. Interesting decision with White. For me he doesn't do enough in terms of variation to warrant a spot at international level.

Kingy
29th October 2008, 16:51
Let this be a lesson to all you who dare impugn my name in such a manner!!!

Syd4Cricket
Enjoy your ban.



Kudos to the mods for finally getting one right.

Fire off enough rounds and your bound to hit your target eventually ;)

Barry
29th October 2008, 16:54
Go the Phillies :thumbsu:

pepe
29th October 2008, 16:56
Hot chicks at the cricket Baz ?

pickman
29th October 2008, 17:42
Good first session by the sound of things, sounds like we bowled with a bit of passion in the first session

Swamp
29th October 2008, 18:19
Good start. Can't let Tendulker settle though.

Big Man
29th October 2008, 19:32
White bowling really well.

Syd
29th October 2008, 19:37
White bowling really well.

Racist. :cool:

Big Man
29th October 2008, 19:40
MJ just removed Tendulkar.

Bring back White, I like watching the ball get hit.

Big Man
29th October 2008, 19:40
Racist. :cool:

In more ways than one.....;)

BuzzKillington
29th October 2008, 19:40
White bowling really well.
oxymoron?

pickman
29th October 2008, 19:42
Good to see the back of Sachin

Big Man
29th October 2008, 19:46
oxymoron?

He was awesome.

India were shell shocked and didnt know how to defend his ample variation and bounce.

Big Man
29th October 2008, 19:47
Good to see the back of Sachin

2 balls before tea as well!

pickman
29th October 2008, 19:49
2 balls before tea as well!

Worst part I missed it, flipped to the NBL :o

BuzzKillington
29th October 2008, 19:50
He was awesome.

India were shell shocked and didnt know how to defend his ample variation and bounce.
Wonders never cease I guess

Travyo
29th October 2008, 22:09
Hey guys aren't we getting flogged right now..................

Oh this isn't going with normal posting tonight, sorry :p

pickman
29th October 2008, 22:11
Hey guys aren't we getting flogged right now..................

Oh this isn't going with normal posting tonight, sorry :p

Isn't a normal day of Australian cricket either, getting beaten blows :mad:

Big Man
29th October 2008, 22:32
Well that was...entertaining.

Travyo
29th October 2008, 22:34
Why pick white if you barely bowl him and he bats at 8?

Big Man
29th October 2008, 22:36
Got me fucked.

He found the middle of the bat well today.

Kingy
29th October 2008, 22:37
Why pick white if you barely bowl him and he bats at 8?

Because it's hedging your bets.

He's not good enough to be in as a bowler, but hey, he can kinda bat - so even if his bowling sucks, he might make a few runs.

Play Krezja.

If we're relying on White to make runs, we're rooted.

Swamp
29th October 2008, 22:38
The Australian test team makes baby jesus cry.

Big Man
29th October 2008, 22:41
The Australian test team is going trough a change.

Was always going to happen.

I wont be jumping off.

bigburger
29th October 2008, 22:42
Because it's hedging your bets.

He's not good enough to be in as a bowler, but hey, he can kinda bat - so even if his bowling sucks, he might make a few runs.

Play Krezja.

If we're relying on White to make runs, we're rooted.
Krecja would be just as bad as White. Clarke and Katich are both better spinners than White and Krecja and thats a big fucken worry. :thumbsd:. I don't care what if we are up against the Indians in India I think with the spinning stocks we have we should be playing 4 paceman and bowling Katich and Clarke in rotation.

I tell you who the major problem in this is. Merv Hughes. Always looks after the player he saw play last.

Kingy
29th October 2008, 22:42
The Australian test team is going trough a change.

Was always going to happen.

I wont be jumping off.

Same.

India in India is the second hardest tour in the world (after Australia in Australia).

Losing this Series was always on the cards, we'll fall back to the pack a bit, but we will still win most of the Series we play.

Travyo
29th October 2008, 22:43
Can you really class White as a spinner? it's more like door knob right arm over

pickman
29th October 2008, 22:45
I think I've said this before but Cameron White isn't even the best spinner in Victoria and he knows that, he's the Victorian captain and he barely bowled himself last summer

Big Man
29th October 2008, 22:46
But you dont take a fucking spinner over there, play a fucking batsemn who bowl a few leggies and leave a "specialist" fnger spinner doing nothing.

Reeks of stupidity.

Big Man
29th October 2008, 22:47
Can you really class White as a spinner? it's more like door knob right arm over

Ahahahhahha.

Fucking brilliant.

Love his arm ball.

Its his only fucking ball.

Kingy
29th October 2008, 22:49
Krecja would be just as bad as White. Clarke and Katich are both better spinners than White and Krecja and thats a big fucken worry. :thumbsd:. I don't care what if we are up against the Indians in India I think with the spinning stocks we have we should be playing 4 paceman and bowling Katich and Clarke in rotation.

I tell you who the major problem in this is. Merv Hughes. Always looks after the player he saw play last.

India in India - I'd rather load up on another batsmen, with the view that we'll finish the series at 0-0.

bigburger
29th October 2008, 22:50
Good point King.

Kingy
29th October 2008, 22:53
Good point King.

It's common sense - why play White if we aren't going to bowl him; and I can understand Punter not bowling him.

Get David Hussey over there instead - he's a gun bat, and him/Clarke/Kat would end up bowling as many, if not more overs.

Big Man
29th October 2008, 22:54
India in India - I'd rather load up on another batsmen, with the view that we'll finish the series at 0-0.

Thats what they've done with White.

It hasnt worked.

Hayden out of touch.

Ponting one good innings in 10 years in India.

Hussey only shining light.

Clarke hasnt fired, now looks like he hurt his back today.

Katich serviceable but not setting the world on fire.

Tough times are upon us all, well the cricket all anyway.

Big Man
29th October 2008, 22:54
Tait?

Whats he up to these days?

Travyo
29th October 2008, 22:57
He took 6 for in a one dayer, reverse swinging it like a mofo, didn't go so well in the 4dayer, but SA did get 500+ smashed against them, tait took 4

Kingy
29th October 2008, 22:58
Yea, but White isn't a Test Quality batsmen; so he should be in there for his bowling, or not at all.

Tait is bowling well, but he's only played (I think) one 4 day game since he's been back.


Thats what they've done with White.

It hasnt worked.

Hayden out of touch.

Ponting one good innings in 10 years in India.

Hussey only shining light.

Clarke hasnt fired, now looks like he hurt his back today.

Katich serviceable but not setting the world on fire.

Tough times are upon us all, well the cricket all anyway.

pickman
29th October 2008, 22:58
Tait?

Whats he up to these days?

He's back playing with SA, have heard he thinks he is bowling with more control than ever!

Be good to have him back in the side if he can bowl with some level of consistancy, don't think there is a batsmen in the world that likes the idea of Tait hurling them down at 160km at them!

Big Man
29th October 2008, 22:59
He took 6 for in a one dayer, reverse swinging it like a mofo, didn't go so well in the 4dayer, but SA did get 500+ smashed against them, tait took 4

He's back playing with SA, have heard he thinks he is bowling with more control than ever!

Be good to have him back in the side if he can bowl with some level of consistancy, don't think there is a batsmen in the world that likes the idea of Tait hurling them down at 160km at them

Cheers Trav and pick.

pickman
29th October 2008, 23:01
He took 6 for in a one dayer, reverse swinging it like a mofo, didn't go so well in the 4dayer, but SA did get 500+ smashed against them, tait took 4

If the game was at Adelaide Oval that could explain a lot - worse wicket in the country, give the bowlers nothing. It's a no-result wicket!

Ljp86
29th October 2008, 23:57
Krecja would be just as bad as White. Clarke and Katich are both better spinners than White and Krecja and thats a big fucken worry. :thumbsd:. I don't care what if we are up against the Indians in India I think with the spinning stocks we have we should be playing 4 paceman and bowling Katich and Clarke in rotation.

I tell you who the major problem in this is. Merv Hughes. Always looks after the player he saw play last.

You have to play a spinner in India, especially with the tracks being so spin friendly. Four quicks won't get the job done, not if the pitch is turning like a fucker in the last three days, you'd be mad not to. I wouldn't be relying on Clarke and Katich to provide the spin options either. Katich is a very average bowler and Clarke is only a handy part-timer. I don't see Sehwag leading India's attack, cause that would be India's version of what we're doing currently.

I think Krejza's chances of playing the next test are increasing by the minute with White's crap effort in this test so far. I wouldn't have picked White at all to be honest, I would have played Krejza in the very first test and kept him there. Despite having a shit tour game, there's no telling what he could do, especially in this game where the pitch is expected to turn nicely from day three onwards. White is a shit spinner and an ordinary bat, need a specialist spin bowler in there.

Travyo
30th October 2008, 00:02
I'd rather have Hauritz or Cullen rolling their arm over than White/Clarke/Katich.

Ljp86
30th October 2008, 00:09
I'd rather have Hauritz or Cullen rolling their arm over than White/Clarke/Katich.

Cullen and Hauritz are both crap.

Mancey
30th October 2008, 00:16
Cullen and Hauritz are both crap.

Yep. I'd prefer just sticking in an extra batsman. None of our spinners are capable of taking wickets so why bother

YOTC
30th October 2008, 00:20
Katich proved you don't have to be a spin king to get wickets in India.

Found the edge, beat the bat, big lbw shout.

Just need to turn the bastard with a little bit of variation.

Travyo
30th October 2008, 00:32
Cullen and Hauritz are both crap.

Agreed but they are better spinners than white.

Yeh Katich when he hit the right spot got it to turn, which is funny, because I haven't seen White turn a ball all series.

BuzzKillington
30th October 2008, 15:09
There's Gambhir's 150. Call me crazy but I have this feeling we're already rooted.

Whacker
30th October 2008, 15:12
We were rooted as soon as we lost the toss. We need to be close to them on first innings. Result will be lose or draw. We have no chance of victory

thegrach
30th October 2008, 15:14
Are these blokes on ABC broadcasting using string and tin cans? Sounds fucking awful.

BuzzKillington
30th October 2008, 15:15
You know you're doing well when an online commentator has this to say about you:

White, he's ... well, lets not say much about White.

Syd
30th October 2008, 15:19
It's not a test.

Hardly even a quiz really. ;)

thegrach
30th October 2008, 15:20
Maybe you should pull the baggy green on again Syd.

Travyo
30th October 2008, 15:41
So we are playing with 10 players yes? seeing as white does nothing.

George Oscar Bluth
30th October 2008, 15:47
This is getting embarrassing once again. From 2/27 to 3/336. :(

Oscarman
30th October 2008, 15:52
Agreed but they are better spinners than white.

I'd pick John Howard ahead of Cameron White.

Kingy
30th October 2008, 16:00
Why the fuck are we playing White?!

Have the selectors over-ruled Punter and kept him in the side or something?

Either play a real fucking spinner, or a real fucking batsmen - not one guy who is half-arsed at both of them.

Travyo
30th October 2008, 16:06
What the fuck is with the condition of the ball? looks 50 overs old, great way to look after it.

Syd
30th October 2008, 16:23
White bowling really well.

Why the fuck are we playing White?!
Agreed but they are better spinners than white.
So we are playing with 10 players yes? seeing as white does nothing.
I'd pick John Howard ahead of Cameron White.



Gotta love loyalty! :thumbsu:

Travyo
30th October 2008, 16:47
Where is the disloyalty there Syd? we are just annoyed they are picking White when they could be picking better people.

Syd
30th October 2008, 16:57
Where is the disloyalty there Syd? we are just annoyed they are picking White when they could be picking better people.

2 hours into the test he was the great 'white' hope.

How quickly the fickle turn.

Still, it was good to see the back of Sachin. :thumbsu:

Travyo
30th October 2008, 17:04
I didn't want him in there from the first test? at not point did I see him as a hope, and anyone who did needs to get their head checked, because the guy barely bowls himself in state cricket, even he knows he is a shit bowler lol.

Kingy
30th October 2008, 17:10
2 hours into the test he was the great 'white' hope.

How quickly the fickle turn.

Still, it was good to see the back of Sachin. :thumbsu:

I was comfortable playing him in the first Test as a gamble.

It didn't pay off; so we gave him the secodn Test to prove himself.

He sucked again.

Surely enough is enough.

Travyo
30th October 2008, 18:18
"this is a game of cricket" defintely not test cricket, because the indians arent being tested"

FUCK YOU INDIAN SHITFUCK COMMENTATOR.

Ron
30th October 2008, 18:28
Fuck me we got a wicket. I am shocked.

pickman
30th October 2008, 18:47
Does Brad Haddin have an aversion to diving to take a catch???

Hasn't really done enough on tour to cement his place in the side the long term permanent keeper...

pickman
30th October 2008, 18:52
If it was anyone else other than the Aussies I would've lol'd at the desperate act of bringing Ponting onto bowl...

Penetration of Australia's bowlers <<<<<< Sunil Gavaskar's sense of humour

Machete KruZin
30th October 2008, 20:25
I reckon we need a good swing bowler in the team...Alderman like for some variety. Preferably someone who can reverse swing the old ball.

Ben Hilfenhous really looked the goods a couple of years ago when Tassie won the Pura cup...What ever happened to him?

Oh and I don't give a shit that he's Victorian, C White is not up to it. David Hussey is the man for the job if they want a gun number 6 batsman who can bowl a bit.

Hawks1523
30th October 2008, 20:28
I reckon we need a good swing bowler in the team...Alderman like for some variety. Preferably someone who can reverse swing the old ball.

Ben Hilfenhous really looked the goods a couple of years ago when Tassie won the Pura cup...What ever happened to him?

Oh and I don't give a shit that he's Victorian, C White is not up to it. David Hussey is the man for the job if they want a gun number 6 batsman who can bowl a bit.


Huju!!!!!!! :eek: :D

Swamp
30th October 2008, 20:31
I think people are forgetting that the batting is a problem as well as the hopeless bowling. Hayden needs to go, Katitch needs to go and somehow D Hussey has to come in. However, this means shifting established batsmen out of position and exposing them to situations not a lot of them ae used to at test level. Lots of pressure on the selectors to get the balance right next summer.

Kingy
30th October 2008, 20:47
I think people are forgetting that the batting is a problem as well as the hopeless bowling. Hayden needs to go, Katitch needs to go and somehow D Hussey has to come in. However, this means shifting established batsmen out of position and exposing them to situations not a lot of them ae used to at test level. Lots of pressure on the selectors to get the balance right next summer.

Are you high?

George Oscar Bluth
30th October 2008, 20:54
No need to panic just yet. We will be a completely different team when batting in Australia. I would look for Shaun Marsh to replace one of the openers soon enough (preferably Katich if Hayden can regain form), but the rest of the top 6 i would leave the same. We really just need a quality spinner and we would be fine. A bad series in India is nothing out of the ordinary.

Swamp
30th October 2008, 21:01
No. Don't get me wrong; I have a lot of respect for Hayden, he's done a lot for the side. But he's 37 now, he's struggling for form on pitches he has traditionally dominated, and the side is in a position where it needs to be looking to the future. Not a lot of people expecteds him to go on past the next ashes anyway, even this summer was touted as his possible swansong. You need stability in the top order. Pat him on the back and say 'Thanks for the career.' Get Jaques fit and get Marsh in. There's your openers, form and fitness prevailing, for 3-5 years.

Machete KruZin
30th October 2008, 21:01
I think people are forgetting that the batting is a problem as well as the hopeless bowling. Hayden needs to go, Katitch needs to go and somehow D Hussey has to come in. However, this means shifting established batsmen out of position and exposing them to situations not a lot of them ae used to at test level. Lots of pressure on the selectors to get the balance right next summer.

It's scary that one of the most astute Cricket analysts here is only 16.

FG, just out of curiocity can you post your ideal Aus11 in batting order for Indian Conditions.

Swamp
30th October 2008, 21:03
It's scary that one of the most astute Cricket analysts here is only 16.

FG, just out of curiocity can you post your ideal Aus11 in batting order for Indian Conditions.

Identify fail

Kingy
30th October 2008, 21:05
It's scary that one of the most astute Cricket analysts here is only 16.

FG, just out of curiocity can you post your ideal Aus11 in batting order for Indian Conditions.

How is that astute?

India in India is the second hardest tour (after Australia in Australia) we've got no spinner, and the rest of our bowling attack is suffering - exposing our batsmen.

Haydos has had 2 absolutely terrible decisions go against him, so you can't really judge him on them.

Machete KruZin
30th October 2008, 21:10
How is that astute?

India in India is the second hardest tour (after Australia in Australia) we've got no spinner, and the rest of our bowling attack is suffering - exposing our batsmen.

Haydos has had 2 absolutely terrible decisions go against him, so you can't really judge him on them.

I'm more curious as to which batsmen would be most suited to Indian conditions. May not necessarily be in our best 11 in Aus conditions though..

Our spin bowling stocks are up the shiezer at the moment. Personally I don't think we have anyone good enough to do any real damage on the sub continent. In India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka.

Kingy
30th October 2008, 21:14
I'm more curious as to which batsmen would be most suited to Indian conditions. May not necessarily be in our best 11 in Aus conditions though..

Our spin bowling stocks are up the shiezer at the moment. Personally I don't think we have anyone good enough to do any real damage on the sub continent. In India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka.

Our spinning stocks are crap - but it's even worse when we're not playing them. We took Casson to the Windies; didn't play him, then dropped him. We brought Krezja here, and instead of playing him, we fly in a guy who is basically a 20/20 batting specialist.

Our batsmen aren't really the problem - but our entire line-up is out of balance by trying to fill the side with stop-gap options.

I like Watson, but if he's in the side, it's on the strength of his batting only, not because he can also bowl.

We've got White who is barely bowling a dozen overs an innings, but is nowhere near a Test level batsman.

The Selectors have fucked this one up massively.

We've basically got 4 established batsmen (Haydos, Punter, Pup, Huss) trying to guide the entire side through the hardest conditions there are.

jaxxon
30th October 2008, 21:18
About bloody time, I thought they were going to bat out the five days.

George Oscar Bluth
30th October 2008, 21:54
So, we've started the chase nice and slowly this time. We were 48 in the 8th over last test, but we are just 6 in the 6th over.

0/6, Katich 4*, Hayden 2*

jaxxon
30th October 2008, 21:56
I think the only way this can be described is as a 'solid' start.

pickman
30th October 2008, 22:34
I'll throw a few names in to see what ppl think they would've gone India

Chris Rogers (played the Perth test earlier this year)
Brad Hodge
James Hopes (I don't rate him that highly but has performed well over the past 12-months)

Unfortunately bar the injured Bryce McGain I can't think of any spinner that would have any impact.

Listening to the radio, it sounds like Haddin's may have injured his hand again, sadly he keeping has been up to scratch for the whole series. Who do you think would replace him though. Is Ronchi the man or would go for a more experienced campaigner like Graeme Manou?

Travyo
30th October 2008, 22:39
If Manou played in the Australian team, I think I'd die of laughter.

pickman
30th October 2008, 22:41
If Manou played in the Australian team, I think I'd die of laughter.

Does make our keeping stocks seem a bit weak too, doesn't it!

Big Man
31st October 2008, 00:45
0/50.

Katich 29*

Hayden 16*

Only 563 runs behind.

Hopefully we keep batting way after the Melbourne Cup is over.

Ljp86
31st October 2008, 02:30
Agreed but they are better spinners than white.

Yeh Katich when he hit the right spot got it to turn, which is funny, because I haven't seen White turn a ball all series.

I never said they were worse than White. They just aren't that good either. As bad as it sounds, McGain is probably Australia's best spinner at the moment and he's 36 (or 37, I can't remember). Casson would come next but after that, who knows? I like the look of Aaron Heal and Xavier Doherty though.

I reckon we need a good swing bowler in the team...Alderman like for some variety. Preferably someone who can reverse swing the old ball.

Ben Hilfenhous really looked the goods a couple of years ago when Tassie won the Pura cup...What ever happened to him?

Played one ODI in Hobart and then got injured and has spent most of the last season battling injury which saw his form drop way off. Has been a lot better this season so far though.

Oh and I don't give a shit that he's Victorian, C White is not up to it. David Hussey is the man for the job if they want a gun number 6 batsman who can bowl a bit.

We don't really need Dave Hussey unless we need to replace a batsman. D Hussey is not a bowler, he is a batsman who can bowl a few part-time offies. What we need is a specialist spinner, not any of this part-time Cameron White/Michael Clarke/Simon Katich bullshit. That is just fucked. Australia must play Krejza in the next test and also in the series' at home if McGain is not available. The team will struggle without a proper spin option and playing against India on their decks without a tweaker is just stupid.

I'll throw a few names in to see what ppl think they would've gone India

Chris Rogers (played the Perth test earlier this year)

Arrogant little fucker. CA isn't happy that he left WA to go play with the Vics. Well behind Shaun Marsh for a keeper's spot and Phillip Hughes is slowly catching him.

Brad Hodge

Not an opening bat. Hodge bats first drop or middle order, nowhere else. Would be behind Hussey now in the pecking order for a middle order spot.

James Hopes (I don't rate him that highly but has performed well over the past 12-months)

One-Dayers only. Not really a test player at all and is much better suited to the short versions of the game. If Hopes played as Australia's all-rounder we would be well and truly struggling.

Unfortunately bar the injured Bryce McGain I can't think of any spinner that would have any impact.

Casson, Heal, Doherty. That's the future of Australian spin in my opinion.

Listening to the radio, it sounds like Haddin's may have injured his hand again, sadly he keeping has been up to scratch for the whole series. Who do you think would replace him though. Is Ronchi the man or would go for a more experienced campaigner like Graeme Manou?

Ronchi by a mile. Frustratingly inconsistent but once he gets going, he is simply awesome to watch. Second best keeper in the country by a fuckin mile. Manou is fucking shit, Victoria's Crosthwaite isn't much better and Chris Hartley from Queensland is not your standard keeper these days, today's keepers are more batsman/keeper whilst Hartley is a keeper/batsman. Bats bottom three for Queensland at the moment. If he did play for Australia, I reckon he'd only bat in front of Stuart Clark.

The only other option they have besides Ronchi is Tasmania's Tim Paine. Similar to Ronchi, has great talent and can hit a ball a long way. But he's behind Ronchi and Haddin at this stage.

Oscarman
31st October 2008, 08:51
Gotta love loyalty! :thumbsu:

I'm loyal (in a cricket sense) to Tasmania first, then Australia. Krejza is a much better bowler than White, but there must be a quota that only allows one Tasmanian in the Test 11 at a time. Unlike the NSW quota, which allows for a maximum of 11 in the team at a time.

pickman
31st October 2008, 10:21
I never said they were worse than White. They just aren't that good either. As bad as it sounds, McGain is probably Australia's best spinner at the moment and he's 36 (or 37, I can't remember). Casson would come next but after that, who knows? I like the look of Aaron Heal and Xavier Doherty though.

Arrogant little fucker. CA isn't happy that he left WA to go play with the Vics. Well behind Shaun Marsh for a keeper's spot and Phillip Hughes is slowly catching him.


Casson, Heal, Doherty. That's the future of Australian spin in my opinion.


Ronchi by a mile. Frustratingly inconsistent but once he gets going, he is simply awesome to watch. Second best keeper in the country by a fuckin mile. Manou is fucking shit, Victoria's Crosthwaite isn't much better and Chris Hartley from Queensland is not your standard keeper these days, today's keepers are more batsman/keeper whilst Hartley is a keeper/batsman. Bats bottom three for Queensland at the moment. If he did play for Australia, I reckon he'd only bat in front of Stuart Clark.

The only other option they have besides Ronchi is Tasmania's Tim Paine. Similar to Ronchi, has great talent and can hit a ball a long way. But he's behind Ronchi and Haddin at this stage.

Thanks for the thorough response LJP :)

Couple points of my own. McGain looks gone for the summer, shame too as it would've been interesting to see how he would've gone in India and being 37 may have missed his best chance for a test cap.

Good Point on Phil Hughes, there are big wraps on him and so far looks to be living up to some of the potential. Barring injury or a massive loss of form I expect to see him in the Test side one day (helps that he is from NSW ;)). At this stage I think Shaun Marsh will be the next cab off the rack.

Worth noting with Chris Rogers move to Victoria. It seems to have push Michael Klinger to the sidelines in Victorian cricket so he upped and left to South Australia. Seems to be a good pick-up for the Redbacks, Klingers had a good start to the season.

Tim Paine is one player I'll be keeping my eye on this season, Ronchi massive inconsistency is a big problem if you are looking at him as a long term Aussie player. A solid year from Paine will probably see him pass Ronchi in terms of the longer form of the game at least.

Now the spinners. I don't rate Casson that highly. Bizzarly picked for the Windie tour IMO ahead of McGain and that selection was based of two good games at the end of the domestic season. Heal haven't seen much of but I think of the current contenders Xavier Doherty the one the one teh selectors should make the investment in.

Looking medium term young Holland for Victoria seems to have made a good start to the year. Will be interesting to see how he progresses over the next 12-24 months especially as his main completition in the Vic side likely to unavailable for large parts of the season (yes I think White will be spending alot of time in the national squad this summer..)

pickman
31st October 2008, 16:07
Finally a 100+ opening stand. Promising start.

First goal is to past the follow-on mark. second is to bat in our first inning for as long as possible.

Let's deny the fuckers...

Hawks1523
31st October 2008, 16:32
Katich GOOOOOOOOONE.

Trav, your bet could be safe now. :D

Hawks1523
31st October 2008, 16:33
Finally a 100+ opening stand. Promising start.

First goal is to past the follow-on mark. second is to bat in our first inning for as long as possible.

Let's deny the fuckers...

Yup, we wont win this test bar a miracle, so lets just deny them a win and drag our innings out as long as we can and draw it.

pickman
31st October 2008, 16:36
Katich gone, let's hope is just a momentary hiccup

Syd
31st October 2008, 16:38
Katich gone, let's hope is just a momentary hiccup

Do you ever get that feeling of deja vu?

Kingy
31st October 2008, 16:38
Yup, we wont win this test bar a miracle, so lets just deny them a win and drag our innings out as long as we can and draw it.

We should've done that from day one of the Series.

Our bowling attack was always going to struggle - we should've loaded up on batsmen and deliberately batted as long as we could every game, and try and end the Series at 0-0.

Hawks1523
31st October 2008, 16:47
Batted Dos! 50 up.

Why the fuck did they play John Cena's theme song? :confused:

pickman
31st October 2008, 16:48
Listening to ABC atm. They say that Gautun Gambhir has been given a 1 test suspension for elbowing Watson

HA-HA

India will probably pick up their bat and ball and go home now!

Hawks1523
31st October 2008, 16:49
Listening to ABC atm. They say that Gautun Gambhir has been given a 1 test suspension for elbowing Watson

HA-HA

India will probably pick up their bat and ball and go home now!

Nah, they'll pick it up and piss off to England or something, they're already in their own shit hole country.

BuzzKillington
31st October 2008, 16:50
Bullshit, they'll threaten to mobilise their stock of nuclear weapons until his suspension gets reversed AND all of our team gets suspended for at least 50 test matches.

pickman
31st October 2008, 16:53
Bullshit, they'll threaten to mobilise their stock of nuclear weapons until his suspension gets reversed AND all of our team gets suspended for at least 50 test matches.

They'll also claim that Andrew Symond's dared Shane Watson to call him a monkey!

Hawks1523
31st October 2008, 17:00
They'll ask for a team of 11 Cameron Whites :o

PowerKat
31st October 2008, 17:02
I nominate the Australian team for TeeLC Friday T-shirt winnahs!

Kingy
31st October 2008, 18:50
I told you ball-lickers that Haydos would smash it.

bigburger
31st October 2008, 19:32
Well he's out now so your wrong.

Ljp86
31st October 2008, 20:14
Thanks for the thorough response LJP :)

Couple points of my own. McGain looks gone for the summer, shame too as it would've been interesting to see how he would've gone in India and being 37 may have missed his best chance for a test cap.

Good Point on Phil Hughes, there are big wraps on him and so far looks to be living up to some of the potential. Barring injury or a massive loss of form I expect to see him in the Test side one day (helps that he is from NSW ;)). At this stage I think Shaun Marsh will be the next cab off the rack.

Jaques would still be next in line with Marsh very close behind. Rogers would be a distant third.

Worth noting with Chris Rogers move to Victoria. It seems to have push Michael Klinger to the sidelines in Victorian cricket so he upped and left to South Australia. Seems to be a good pick-up for the Redbacks, Klingers had a good start to the season.

Klinger's had a very good domestic season to date. The move seems to have done him a world of good. Shame the team he's playing for is incredibly uncompetitive.

Tim Paine is one player I'll be keeping my eye on this season, Ronchi massive inconsistency is a big problem if you are looking at him as a long term Aussie player. A solid year from Paine will probably see him pass Ronchi in terms of the longer form of the game at least.

I think Ronchi is still the second best keeper in the country but he has to pull his finger out, particularly in the one-dayers. Too many times he's gotten out cheaply (usually for a duck) in the first few overs. I think he spends too much time attacking rather than consolidating the work done before them. Gilchrist was also an out-and-out attacker but when the situation called for it, he put the big guns away and rescued Australia many a time in the test arena. Ronchi needs to settle down a little and show a little maturity with the willow.

Now the spinners. I don't rate Casson that highly. Bizzarly picked for the Windie tour IMO ahead of McGain and that selection was based of two good games at the end of the domestic season. Heal haven't seen much of but I think of the current contenders Xavier Doherty the one the one teh selectors should make the investment in.

Looking medium term young Holland for Victoria seems to have made a good start to the year. Will be interesting to see how he progresses over the next 12-24 months especially as his main completition in the Vic side likely to unavailable for large parts of the season (yes I think White will be spending alot of time in the national squad this summer..)

Unfortunately, Australia's spin stocks are quite low at this point and Casson is one of the better spinners we have. McGain is definitely Australia's best option but he is out for the season now and he is really not the right age to be making his test debut. Having said that, he'd be there if he wasn't injured. Heal and Doherty are more one-day bowlers, both are very, very good at restricting runs and Heal is able to get a lot of variety with his deliveries. They'd be the one-day future in my opinion.

Holland is one I haven't seen.

Big Man
31st October 2008, 20:38
I told you ball-lickers that Haydos would smash it.

Unlucky not to notch a nother century imo, that decision could've gone either way.

251/1 Ponting 70* Hussey 16*

Ljp86
31st October 2008, 20:59
Unlucky not to notch a nother century imo, that decision could've gone either way.

251/1 Ponting 70* Hussey 16*

Not even real.

Big Man
31st October 2008, 21:00
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee72/ropes2007/cleavage.jpg

Ljp86
31st October 2008, 21:01
Five Cougars thanks.

Roddy Woomble
31st October 2008, 21:21
"You've got to choose between tightening your belt or losing your pants," a wise sage once said, and India have to decide what route they want to take.'

Wait....what??

Big Man
31st October 2008, 21:22
Ponting bowled by Sehwag.

On 87.

284/3

George Oscar Bluth
31st October 2008, 23:48
4/338 at stumps. Overall a very good day of batting for us. We are still in deep trouble, but you never really get out of trouble after allowing a team to post 7d/613.

If we can score another 200 by tea tomorrow, we should be able to save the match. If we turn only 100 behind, i doubt they will be able to set a winning target. The problem will be.. can we score 500?

YOTC
1st November 2008, 00:54
If we can score another 200 by tea tomorrow, we should be able to save the match. If we turn only 100 behind, i doubt they will be able to set a winning target. The problem will be.. can we score 500?
I can tell you aren't watching this on tv.

George Oscar Bluth
1st November 2008, 01:50
I can tell you aren't watching this on tv.
This is true. I don't have foxtel and wasn't able to listen on ABC at work, so its purely based on the scores. Are you saying that we won't be able to bat out the last 2 days because of the pitch??

Big Man
1st November 2008, 16:28
400 is up.

Clarke with his 10th 50.

Sehwag bowled watson earlier for 36

pickman
1st November 2008, 16:39
We have avoided the follow-on, hopefully we can hold-on for as long a possible and eat into the deficit as much as possible.

Australia have batted very well so far, seems to be batting with real intelligence for the circumstance

Big Man
1st November 2008, 16:43
Geez that was huge Haddin 6 earlier.

Big Man
1st November 2008, 16:49
Kumble has Haddin stumped.

426/6

Big Man
1st November 2008, 16:51
Hopefully we get to 500, but its looking a difficult proposition.

pickman
1st November 2008, 16:52
Time for Cameron White to stand up as a batsman

Big Man
1st November 2008, 16:54
Hahahahhahhahhahhahahhahahahh *cough*

Big Man
1st November 2008, 17:02
Lunch 436/6

White 4*

Mr Bingle 57*

Big Man
1st November 2008, 19:18
Jesus.

Laxman dropped Clarke on 90.

An absolute sitter as well.

White proving the Big Man wrong, currently 42*

Hawks1523
1st November 2008, 19:19
Yes Pup, make the 100.

Go Bear, 42 not a bad effort....:o

Big Man
1st November 2008, 19:21
Mr Bingle is now 95*

527/6

Australias best score without a batmen notching a century is 485.

Hawks1523
1st November 2008, 19:22
Pup dropped again!! :D

Big Man
1st November 2008, 19:23
Clarke has been dropped again, by Mishra out in the deep!!

BuzzKillington
1st November 2008, 19:24
I love when you open a thread about cricket, only to be met by some huge knockers :thumbsu:

Big Man
1st November 2008, 19:26
:)

I have more, if required.

Swamp
1st November 2008, 19:27
Laxman dropped Clarke on 90.

An absolute sitter as well.


How easy was it? I didnt see it, but cricinfo says it was basically a gimmie

Big Man
1st November 2008, 19:28
Top edge Swampy. Laxman got underneath beautifyully, then "pop" in and out baby.

Mishras was easy too, he dove forward at deep square leg and it also popped out.

Clarke dropped on 21, 90, 91.

Hawks1523
1st November 2008, 19:31
White bowled. :eek:

Big Man
1st November 2008, 19:31
White out bowled by Sehwag, for 44.

532/7

BuzzKillington
1st November 2008, 19:32
At least he contributed somehow. Hopefully we can bat the day out now.

Big Man
1st November 2008, 19:33
Anyway heres some colour to the thread.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee72/ropes2007/lara_bingle_cricket.jpg

BuzzKillington
1st November 2008, 19:34
Yes please

Swamp
1st November 2008, 19:35
The fact that a part timer like Sehwag can get 5 really highlights our lack of spinning talent

Big Man
1st November 2008, 19:37
The fact that a part timer like Sehwag can get 5 really highlights our lack of spinning talent

Sure does.

Hawks1523
1st November 2008, 19:42
Good 100 pup!!! :D :thumbsu:

Big Man
1st November 2008, 19:43
Mr Bingle on 99....

And he gets his Century.

A lucky one but a century nonetheless.

Well done Clarkey.

Big Man
1st November 2008, 19:43
And thats tea.

539/7

Kingy
1st November 2008, 19:45
Bout time we batted properly.

Ljp86
1st November 2008, 21:32
Anyway heres some colour to the thread.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee72/ropes2007/lara_bingle_cricket.jpg

I think I speak for everyone when I say I'd let her play with my third man.

Big Man
1st November 2008, 22:05
Even Tess.

YOTC
1st November 2008, 22:20
This is true. I don't have foxtel and wasn't able to listen on ABC at work, so its purely based on the scores. Are you saying that we won't be able to bat out the last 2 days because of the pitch??
Well you nailed it. However India really let themselves down on that day. The early drop was just the start of it.

Kingy
1st November 2008, 22:27
Well you nailed it. However India really let themselves down on that day. The early drop was just the start of it.

For all of their improvement, they are still generally front-runners.

They should be winning this Series easily - they obviously smashed us once, but apart from that, we've been right in it.

Ljp86
1st November 2008, 23:01
For all of their improvement, they are still generally front-runners.

They should be winning this Series easily - they obviously smashed us once, but apart from that, we've been right in it.

They are matey, it's 1-0. ;)

Kingy
1st November 2008, 23:05
They are matey, it's 1-0. ;)

That's not easily :P

Ljp86
1st November 2008, 23:08
That's not easily :P

It will probably end up being enough though. We should have won the first test but mucked up badly. They thrashed us in the second test and the third has been even. But, they haven't had Harbhajan for this game and he does well against our top order. We probably would have scored less if he was playing.

It could have easily been 1-1 except for a costly period in the first test.

Kingy
1st November 2008, 23:13
It will probably end up being enough though. We should have won the first test but mucked up badly. They thrashed us in the second test and the third has been even. But, they haven't had Harbhajan for this game and he does well against our top order. We probably would have scored less if he was playing.

It could have easily been 1-1 except for a costly period in the first test.

Exactly :)

And we've got no spinner. And our spinner whose in the side for his batting has, until today, done nothing.

A new keeper who is injured and kinda struggling.

Our strike bowler is struggling with fitness and form; our second best is struggling with injury.

New opener.

New all-rounder.



Them at home, should be destroying us.

Ljp86
1st November 2008, 23:16
Exactly :)

And we've got no spinner.

A new keeper who is injured and kinda struggling.

Our strike bowler is struggling with fitness and form; our second best is struggling with injury.

New opener.

New all-rounder.



Them at home, should be destroying us.

Probably. Not a half bad effort considering the side is in transition mode.

pickman
1st November 2008, 23:20
Time for Cameron White to stand up as a batsman

Hahahahhahhahhahhahahhahahahh *cough*


White may not have got a massive score but as a support act to Clarke may have helped save the game for the Aussies. Thanks Whitey

Would you like a piece of my humble pie Big Man? ;) :D

Kingy
1st November 2008, 23:34
White may not have got a massive score but as a support act to Clarke may have helped save the game for the Aussies. Thanks Whitey

Would you like a piece of my humble pie Big Man? ;) :D

If he's not bowling at least 20-30 overs an innings, he shouldn't be in the side.

If you want a batsmen who can roll his arm over, put David Hussey in there.

I like White, I just don't think he should be in the side.

Big Man
2nd November 2008, 12:38
Yes White batted very well.

*eating humble pie as we speak.

jimmy35
2nd November 2008, 12:45
Is it the bottom of the ninth yet ?

Big Man
2nd November 2008, 12:55
Extra time Jimmeh.

Swamp
2nd November 2008, 15:55
Are we allowed to think the unthinkable and dream of an unlikely win?

pickman
2nd November 2008, 16:02
Are we allowed to think the unthinkable and dream of an unlikely win?

I would think we need another 2-3 wickets by lunch to be any hope but it's an amazing turnaround. I still think a draw is 90% likely but I think we are the only side that could produce a win as I don't think India will have enough time to take 10 wickets.

To think that after two days an Indian win was the likely result!

BuzzKillington
2nd November 2008, 16:02
fahgeddaboutit

Swamp
2nd November 2008, 16:06
LOL at the cricinfo commentator burning Haddin -

25.1Clark to Tendulkar, no run, 123.1 lifting delivery outside off, Tendulkar gets his bat away from the line and sways away and it carries well to Haddin

25.2Clark to Tendulkar, no run, another short delivery, this time around his hips, Tendulkar gets inside the line and lets it go to Bad Hands.

pwnt

FG
2nd November 2008, 16:08
I have sent feedback into cricinfo as "Patto Man" of "Australia"

- "Is it too much to hope for an Australian win? India should try hitting it. In the air."

Brenno
2nd November 2008, 16:50
gamby gone

FG
2nd November 2008, 16:53
Laxman in

BuzzKillington
2nd November 2008, 16:54
Only Tendulkar, Laxman, Ganguly, Dhoni, Kumble and Khan to go

Runk
2nd November 2008, 16:55
just call it off now and lets get on with the next test ffs.

Big Man
2nd November 2008, 17:55
Draw coming up, not that we thought any different.

Hawks1523
2nd November 2008, 18:56
Cameron White strikes again, Tendulkar gone!

Hawks1523
2nd November 2008, 20:21
Anal Kumble will retire after this test match!

Kingy
2nd November 2008, 20:25
Anal Kumble will retire after this test match!

Meh.

Great career, but since the Tour last year, I think he's a complete dickhead.

Swamp
2nd November 2008, 20:26
Anal Kumble will retire after this test match!

Syd will be dissapointed, he loves anal.

Travyo
2nd November 2008, 20:28
Well least he knows when to throw it away, he has barely looked like getting a wicket all series.

jimmy35
2nd November 2008, 20:30
Syd will be dissapointed, he loves anal.


Yep , right up the Kalamazoo .

Syd
3rd November 2008, 08:24
Yep , right up the Kalamazoo .

Sounds like something Benny would say. :(